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Welcome from Martyman[edit]

Welcome!

Hello Pelagic, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page.

I see you aren't brand new but I thought as no one else had greated you yet I would say hi. I notice you have been editing articles related to Sydney which is great there is still a lot of information about Australia that needs to be fleshed out. It would be great if you would consider joining the Sydney WikiProject which helps users focus their efforts and sets out guidlines and targets for Sydney articles. It would also help you meet other editors who may have similar interests to you. There is also the Australian Wikipedians' notice board which is central meeting place for Australian Wikipedians. --Martyman-(talk) 09:39, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Thanks, Martyman, that's a great welcome message. I'm posting back onto my own talk page in case you have a watch on it. I'm new at this so still don't have a great grasp on how the various user pages, discussion pages, project pages, etc. fit into the whole authoring/revision/consensus/editing process.

Pelagic 17:42, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It can be a bit confuding yes, though after enough time most things here become almost second nature. It is easy to forget how daunting the interface and communication system is for new comers. I can recommend that the Wikipedia:Community Portal has many useful links for learning your way around. --Martyman-(talk) 21:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sydney meetup[edit]

Hi, I got your name from this list, and thought you might be interested in a meetup in Sydney at the Alexandria Hotel tomorrow. I hope you can join us. Sorry for the late notice. --99of9 (talk) 11:23, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Apology[edit]

Pelagic ... very sorry if you got a few password reset messages. I couldn't remember my previously created but unused account name and the system looked like it let me send a password reset to your acccount and my email -- hopefully it just looks that way and doesn't really do it. I am now pelagicsmath Pelagicsmath (talk) 01:04, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for White-rumped falcon[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:04, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Finding copyright year on UBD street directories[edit]

Hi, DaveDodgy here. I read what you were writing about Bankstown Airport and it's naming. Do you still have the old street directory with only the edition number (no year) ? Thanks. DaveDodgy (talk) 14:27, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, Dave, that post was nine years ago! I'd forgotten all about it. I'm not sure whether I could put my hands on the book, it may be packed away. If I find it on the bookshelf I'll let you know, but I have a feeling it's in a crate under a pile of other crates behind a mountain of stuff in a storage unit. Or my wife may have thrown it out years ago without my knowledge. Pelagic (talk) 11:58, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I know exactly how you feel. I moved home so many times in the last 4 years alone! Things in PODS, things in a 20' container, things hidden in the roof, things chucked out by my landlords, and cousin, etc. Not knowing what I still have, and what is gone. Or where it is! Nightmare!!!! Depressing!!!! If you ever see the same street directory, at a garage sale, or where ever (based on the image of the front cover) have a look, and get back online ! :) Sorry to any moderator, I know this comment doesn't belong here. DaveDodgy (talk) 13:32, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Care to reply? --George Ho (talk) 04:36, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the prompt, George. I've replied on the talk page. I hope this mention pings you (am still trying to get my head around the alerting system). Pelagic (talk) 10:51, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
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A brownie for you![edit]

Thank you for your help!!! Songuitar333 (talk) 07:08, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Teamwork Barnstar
Thank You for editing Pransukh Nayak and helping me in DYK. Regards, Nizil (talk) 05:40, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Cheerleading in Australia[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Cheerleading in Australia at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:11, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I have reviewed your DYK nomination of Cheerleading in Australia, and there are some sourcing and issues that need to be addressed. Please fix these as soon as possible, otherwise the nomination will be marked for closure as stale. Thank you and happy editing. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:28, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 22:34, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Pelagic. As you have not responded to comments left on your DYK nomination of Cheerleading in Australia, the nomination has now been marked for closure. If you wish for the nomination to continue, please leave a message there before it is closed. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As you have not been active on Wikipedia over the past few weeks, I have now marked your DYK nomination for closure. If you wish for the nomination to continue, please return to editing as soon as possible. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:00, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]


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Page move[edit]

I moved the page you created today to User:Pelagic/sandbox/j/2019/08/16. You created the page in mainspace because you forgot to prepend User: before your name. Schazjmd (talk) 21:58, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Belated note: thanked on their talk page with some wikilove. Pelagic (talk) 01:59, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Arb comments[edit]

Hi Pelagic, could it be that your latest comment on the Fram proposed decision talkpage got accidentally placed in the wrong section? It ended up underneath mine but looks as if it was meant to be in yours, right? Fut.Perf. 09:48, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Heheh, now that I look more closely, it seems you actually posted it three times, in a different section each. Probably because somebody else was busy inserting more section headings above yours and edit-conflicting with you all the time. ;-) Fut.Perf. 09:51, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Aha, you've hit the nail on the head, FP☼. I see that Gerda added some subheads and that the section-edit links work by section number — action=edit&section=22 or #/editor/22 — so that explanation would make … 'perfect' sense. The mobile interface doesn't appear to be detecting edit conflicts for me. (Nothing appeared to happen after tapping the Publish button. Also nothing happened when I tried to delete the stray comment in Nosebagbear's section, as you were removing that at the same time. Have left a null-edit summary in the history: mobdiff.) Not sure if the broken ec-detection is a general thing, or specific to AMC, &/or dependent on platform/device. Thanks for cleaning up. Pelagic (talk) 18:53, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Brock Blomberg Bio Request[edit]

Hello! I want to thank you again for helping with this request to review and remove the misinterpreted content from the Brock Blomberg article. I was hoping you'd be able to return to this request to remove inaccurate text about T. Winegar as well. I included the link to the (resolved) legal docket, per your request. The last 2 paragraphs of the "Career" section are problematic (as outlined here), but I'm willing to focus on the Winegar content specifically if that's your preference. I understand you probably have a few other requests out there, so if there are fellow editors who may be willing to assist or offer recommendations, please feel free to point me in that direction too. Thanks, again, for your ongoing help and guidance! TY Ursinus (talk) 19:10, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A survey to improve the community consultation outreach process[edit]

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Darkinyung people[edit]

Thanks for your edits on this page.

One point about bibliographic listings: they are sorted alphabetically by author(s) last name, not by date only. If there is more than one work by the same author, they are sorted by date within author; and if there is more than one work by the same author in the same year, they are distinguished by a single lower-case alphabetic suffix (called a "date disambiguator"), for example Smith 1995a, Smith 1995b, etc.

I mention this because I saw your hidden comment in the wikitext ("ordered by year"). I have a script which takes care of this all automatically (plus a lot more): just on the sorting (a small part of its job), it has to worry about authors with the same last name but different first names, cites with more than one author; cites that don't have any author at all, plus it adds date disambiguators automatically, if needed. If you see "fixes" in my edit summaries on any of the Australian Aboriginal articles, it is referring to this script, which I call my "ETVP script" and is partly described by the long pinned thread on my talk page. --NSH001 (talk) 23:52, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Desktop improvements prototype[edit]

Hello, Pelagic!

Exploration of the Unknown
I hereby award you the Exploration of the Unknown award! You are being recognized for your courage and willingness to test a feature, gadget, or tool in development and for the constructive feedback you provided.



Thanks for taking the time to participate in the user feedback round for our desktop improvements prototype. This feedback is super valuable to us and is currently being used to determine our next steps. We have published a report gathering the main takeaways from the feedback and highlighting the changes we’ll make based on this feedback. Please take a look and give us your thoughts on the talk page of the report. To learn more about the project overall and the other features we’re planning on building in the future, check out the main project page.

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:28, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Secret message[edit]

I wonder whether you would like User:Pelagic/common.js to look like User:Whatamidoing (WMF)/common.js.

(Just remember that if you "do" this, you will have to "undo" it when the Beta Feature arrives.) Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 03:38, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the hint, Whatamidoing (WMF). I'm giving it a try now. Pelagicmessages ) Z – (20:35 Mon 01, AEST) 10:35, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Let me know what you think. I'm loving it. (I suspect that the devs produced this so that I would quit pestering them to release it here now. It is sooooo handy on long pages like VPT and ArbCom cases.) Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:58, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It sure beats scrolling up to the section heading in a long discussion. There are a few things I’d need before I get to "I’m loving it" territory, though:
  1. @-mention tool (coming soon): copying and editing the user-page URL is a right pain. This would be enough to prevent me from using it regularly in production. Seems like a nice-to-have at first, but with continued use it’s more of a must-have. I wonder if the French, Hungarians, etc. feel the same.
  2. Edit summary (already a thread on this but I should go back and add to it): most of the time on a talk page, the edit summary is going to be blah like "response" or "comment", but I’ve already had situations where I wanted to put something more specific.
  3. Faith that it won’t lose my work when the browser tab reloads. I gather that most post-VE code is supposed to be able to recover, but for me that often doesn’t work. The classic-editor cycle of type–preview–type–preview is more robust. Great for short comments, but for long edits with lots of tab switching there's always Old Faithful.
  4. Works on mobile.
Pelagicmessages ) Z – (07:57 Tue 02, AEST) 21:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

21:12, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #2 – Quick updates[edit]

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Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:11, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 28 June 2020[edit]

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Editing news 2020 #3[edit]

On 16 March 2020, the 50 millionth edit was made using the visual editor on desktop.

Seven years ago this week, the Editing team made the visual editor available by default to all logged-in editors using the desktop site at the English Wikipedia. Here's what happened since its introduction:

  • The 50 millionth edit using the visual editor on desktop was made this year. More than 10 million edits have been made here at the English Wikipedia.
  • More than 2 million new articles have been created in the visual editor. More than 600,000 of these new articles were created during 2019.
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  • The proportion of all edits made using the visual editor has been increasing every year.
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Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 02:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Pelagic[edit]

Your username is fantastic. that is all. :) --Merbabu (talk) 09:47, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2020-31 (part)[edit]

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The Signpost: 2 August 2020[edit]

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IFLA Library Reference Model moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, IFLA Library Reference Model, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Mccapra (talk) 23:37, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why, @Mccapra? Are you saying it's non-notable? Pelagicmessages ) – (14:30 Thu 27, AEST) 04:30, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I’m saying it does not have enough sources to remain published. It has one that is not third-party. Thanks Mccapra (talk) 04:55, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Mccapra, that's not my understanding of how it works. Articles, even if undeveloped, are kept if the subject is notable. But whatever, I've added some third-party ref's and expanded the content slightly. Understandably for a new standard, a lot of the third-party matter is conference presentations and slide decks. I also removed the AfC template, since I have no intention of going through that process. Thanks for replying so promptly. Would you be happy for me to de-draftify it in its new state? Pelagicmessages ) – (17:32 Thu 27, AEST) 07:32, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes thanks that’s great. Mccapra (talk) 09:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome, thanks for reviewing. Pelagicmessages ) – (19:01 Thu 27, AEST) 09:01, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2020-41 (highlights)[edit]

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Selected items:

  • There is a new tool where you can see which home wiki users have in discussions on Meta. This can help show which communities are not part of the discussion on wikis where we make decisions that affect many other wikis.

Problems

  • There were many errors with the new MediaWiki version last week. The new version was rolled back. Updates that should have happened last week are late. [34]
  • Everyone was logged out. This was because a user reported being logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [35]
  • Advanced item Many pages have JavaScript errors. You can read more and now see a list of user scripts with errors.

Wikidata weekly summary #437 (highlight)[edit]

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    • Wikidata Training Workshop 4, by Canadian Arts Presenting Association - YouTube
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  • Tool of the week
    • WikibaseJS-cli allows to edit Wikidata from command line, including creating items from samples ("templates") and do complex transformations of statements
    • Query examples:

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  • Development

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    • Working on creating and tracking implicit usages of Wikidata descriptions so description changes show up in the watchlist on Wikipedia and co (phab:T265897)
    • Created Extension:WikibaseManifest documentation on MediaWiki.
    • Looking into what would be considered a mismatch when comparing WIkidata's data against another database. This is groundwork for potentially automating this in the future to find potential issues in the data to flag to editors.
    • Working on deploying the new Item quality scoring model for ORES to production so we have improved quality scores [No link in original newsletter, but see Item quality judgments from ORES.]

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... Read the full report · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 16:00, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Growth team updates #15[edit]

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The Signpost: 1 November 2020[edit]

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Wikidata weekly summary #440[edit]

IP block[edit]

This IP address or range is used by Netskope web security, which is widely used by companies and governments. For myself, I can bypass it, or wait until I am off work and edit from home. But there might be a fair bit of collateral blockage. Since it's only a short duration, side effects might not be too significant.

(Unless it's actually the X-Forwarded-For 60._._.14 that's blocked, in which case the user was someone in my building!)

This blocked user's request to have autoblock on their IP address lifted has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request.
Pelagic (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))
Pelagic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Block message:

Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "ACMruralevents". The reason given for ACMruralevents's block is: ...


Decline reason: The autoblock is doing its job properly. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 15:33, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Meh, thanks anyway. Pelagicmessages ) – (14:25 Fri 06, AEST) 04:25, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Disambiguation link notification for December 14[edit]

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited South Mosman ferry wharf, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Howard Hinton.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:40, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed Pelagicmessages ) – (14:08 Tue 15, AEDT) 03:08, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #447[edit]

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The Signpost: 28 December 2020[edit]

Happy New Year Wikipedia[edit]

HNY from Australia! Pelagicmessages ) – (00:04 Fri 01, AEDT) 13:04, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #449[edit]

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Wikidata weekly summary #450[edit]