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Hi Skitash, When answering edit request from editors who are not WP:XC in the WP:ARBPIA CTOP, it is best to not request they obtain consensus as they are not permitted to engage in consensus building, in the topic area, per WP:ARBECR. They are only permitted to make edit requests. TarnishedPath^talk 15:07, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. Thanks for telling me. Skitash (talk) 15:16, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Skitash.

You are reverting my all edits on English Wikipedia and say that they are "disruptive" but there is nothing objectionable if you look at them. Why? Can you tell me? 78.177.163.183 (talk) 19:42, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Skitash, if you take issues with another editor's work, please start a discussion about this on their User talk page and respond to their questions, don't just simply revert and post a standard template. How are they supposed to know what is wrong with their editing? Please engage in conversation where you explain what you see as a problem instead of just labeling an editor as "disruptive". It is much more effective than what is basically an anonymous template and what you are seeking is to an end to the problem. Thank hyou. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:21, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll make sure to do that. The reason I didn't start a discussion is that they're block-evading. Their other IP 78.177.160.122 has been blocked for 6 months for making the same disruptive edits. Skitash (talk) 20:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pyramids09 (talk) 08:15, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnicity, or ethnic belonging, is today a social assignment and a representation, attributed to an individual or a human group, according to cultural criteria (definition that i found).So, isn't it logical to define based on something other than language? There is obviously the genetic factor (even if it's not everything), but there is also linguistically: Tunisians don't all speak literary Arabic and have their own dialect. But if that's not enough, there is the feeling of belonging, and all we have is a study by Arab Barometer conducted in 2011. This statistical study asks people what ethnic group they belong to: the answer is 34% Arab, 34% other, and 33% don't know. So wouldn't it be better to put something more nuanced? Mhmdgrd (talk) 01:34, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Ethnicity, or ethnic belonging, is today a social assignment and a representation, attributed to an individual or a human group" Correct. So what brings genetics into this?

"So, isn't it logical to define based on something other than language?" Language is only one part of ethnicity, but an important one. Ethnicity is based on identity, culture, history, etc.

"There is obviously the genetic factor" Genetics don't define identity. Ethnic identity is socially constructed.

"Tunisians don't all speak literary Arabic and have their own dialect" Sure, and that dialect is Arabic.

"all we have is a study by Arab Barometer conducted in 2011" The study you're referring to polled about 1,200 people. That's not enough to represent an entire country's ethnic identity, especially when larger sources like the CIA World Factbook offer different conclusions. Skitash (talk) 02:22, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1. Genetics plays an important role in understanding certain aspects of ethnicity, but it is essential to clearly distinguish what falls under genetic science and what falls under cultural, social, and historical concepts. However, it is a factor to be taken into account; it allows us to trace the geographical and migratory origins of human populations and their historical heritage, and to define who we are without influence and to define with certainty what we are.

2. I agree. However, for identity, culture, history, etc. we can clearly see that it is much more nuanced than that and it is undeniable culturally, Tunisia is mainly North African it is undeniable with Latin, Mediterranean, Turkish influences... and of course Arab but which is minimal. Historically there was an Arab domination and migrations it is undeniable but once again this is far from being the majority. Another type of study that was carried out by travelers before the modern era and colonization, the North Africans and especially the Maghrebis all defined themselves by the term "Moor".

3. I understand that, it would be better to put another category for that.

4. Yes, but this dialect has its specificities. But the most important point, several linguists such as Charles Ferguson, William Marçais and Abdou Elimam, tend to consider Maghrebi Arabic as a distinct language.

5. This is the most serious study, unfortunately, it's all we have. I looked at sources like the CIA World Factbook, and it's not the result of a study or reliable data. It's once again a description of linguistic data, and you can see the work is sloppy when, for example, Egyptians are defined as 99.7% Egyptian, or Moroccans as Arab-Amazigh.

This modification aims to integrate elements from population genetics to enrich the understanding of ethnicity from a multidisciplinary perspective. Although ethnicity is primarily a social and cultural construct, population genetic studies have shown that there may be partial correlations between certain self-identified ethnic groups and regional genetic profiles, particularly with regard to ancient migrations, geographic isolation, or historical exchanges.

I understand that we cannot only put genetic data, however I would like a more realistic and nuanced approach.

With all due respect. Mhmdgrd (talk) 03:03, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]