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- Thank you Flex, Greetings from the Netherlands.
- Mateusz of Lemoland (talk) 16:11, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
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Earl Gates
[edit]I would like you to know that the "apparent non-notable" Article regarding Earl Gates, was unjustified on the basis that the person wrote the article himslef. He is a coworker of mine and I added him in becasue he technically is a civil servant, currently serving in the United States Army. I apologize for not knowing the current rules regarding notablity. Thank you for making me aware of thi issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.13.141.100 (talk • contribs)
RorikStrindberg
[edit]Flex, I have having difficulty finding out how to cite information on wikipedia. can you direct me to where i will learn more about wiki citation?(RorikStrindberg (talk) 04:29, 25 April 2008 (UTC))
- Yes. See WP:CITE for the mechanics of how to do it and WP:V for what things need citations and for what sort of sources should be cited. I took the liberty of restoring the section you added to Cotton Mather and touching it up a bit. Probably the material on the trials from the sections above should be incorporated in your new section, or your section should be incorporated there. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. --Flex (talk/contribs) 12:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, for the info. I am going to write a heck of a lot more. The project is for a class (University) and i am in the process of gathering all of the information that I would need to write an informative section on Cotton Mather. I had just got something up so that I could show that I was doing some work, aside from my reasurch. Thanks for the Help again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RorikStrindberg (talk • contribs) 00:13, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Intellego or intelligo?
[edit]Thank you for welcoming me.
I know the difference between indicative and subjunctive.
Please cfr. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intelligo and http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intellego .
Maybe wiktionary needs some fixing, too.
Manderlay (talk) 06:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- It does seem that there are two spellings of the verb, with the intelligo deemed "less correct"[1] or "lesser"[2] by classicists but nonetheless being in common use, particularly in Augustine (cf. some of his other works) and subsequent Latin (cf. "Crede, ut intelligas" and "Credo, ut intelligam" in Richard A. Muller, Dictionary of Latin and Greek Theological Terms, Grand Rapids: Baker, 1985). Perhaps it is a change from the classical spelling that was incorporated into Ecclesiastical Latin, though not eliminating the classical spelling (cf. Fides et ratio[3])? In any case, it seems clear that the intellig* is the original in the case we're discussing. --Flex (talk/contribs) 13:18, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Father
[edit]Rather shows, like "pope" below, and the general condescending tone, the strong POV of your source, does it not? Johnbod (talk) 18:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- They are certainly ardent Protestants and passionate abstainers, but in this case, since they clearly delight in touting the successes of the temperance movement, their distinct point of view seems actually to add weight to the fact that Catholicism wasn't greatly or lastingly affected, unlike parts of Protestantism. My favorite quote from that article is when they say, "The temperance cause is so pure, its logic so complete, so utterly unanswerable, that it might have routed all its enemies had the contest gone on without interruption [viz., the Civil War]." I suppose it did regularly route its enemies up until the passage of the 21st amendment, but "utterly unanswerable"? --Flex (talk/contribs) 19:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Orthodoxy and alcohol
[edit]Phiddipus and the other users cover the topic well. Moderation is (obviously, in line with scripture) always encouraged, but drinking itself is not frowned upon. There are little traditions here and there which involve alcoholic drinks.
This article contains a modern treatment of alcoholism and addiction, but briefly elaborates on the history of moderation and the views of the church (and cites a canon or two concerning priestly behavior). It's difficult to find direct treatments on the subject, because most sermons and encyclicals are devoted towards a general abstinence from sin (drunkeness being considered among those). The Orthodox Christian information center touches on the subject here where it notes the prohibition against festivities on the eve of a holy day (which includes the normal Sunday) and relates a Tsar's prohibition against drunkenness and the sale of wine on Sundays. This identifies drunkenness amongst the mortal sins (see the footnote). This is what I've come up with from a quick search. I'll contact my priest and see if there is anything more official or historical on the matter, and if there are any books which can be referenced. I hope that this may have been of some help for now.--C.Logan (talk) 22:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Great welcome?
[edit]Thanks for sending me the welcome package. I notice you also promptly reverted the one edit I did make. You didn't give me much reason to stay did you? Robint49 (talk) 05:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Os Guinness
[edit]He isn't notable at all. I think this entire article should be deleted. QuirkyAndSuch (talk) 12:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think he'd pass the notability guidelines fairly easily, but there certainly are other problems with the article, which I've tagged appropriately. --Flex (talk/contribs) 15:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Speahlman
[edit]Flex, as you may have noticed, I joined the CalvinismProject some time ago. At the moment, I'm having problems with getting the draft of an article on "Tolerance and Intolerance in the History of Protestantism" accepted. Could you help? I would be very grateful. I think the topic is worth being written about in Wikipedia. The draft is in my Sandbox. Speahlman (talk) 19:15, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]Catholic view on bible inpiration
[edit]The piece that I deleted is quoting as its source the encyclical Providentissimus Deus, from Leo XIII, 1893. (There's a boxed quote also from Vatican I, but the primary quote is Providentissimus Deus). This represents a period in Church history when Leo was attempting to reject all modernity - you'll recall the famous quote to the effect that the Church has no need to accommodate itself to the modern world. The Church never directly disavows any encyclical, but it can come awfully close. It did this in 1943 with the encyclical Divino Afflante Spiritu of Pius XII, which effectively reversed Leo's directives on the subject of biblical scholarship and, inevitably, biblical inspiration. Divino Afflante says in effect that the bible has many authors and that Catholic scholars should study the times in which they lived and the context in which they wrote - a far cry from Prov.'s insistence on the purely divine origins of scripture. As I mention, the Vatican never expressly contradicts earlier pronouncements, and so the language of Afflante is a little obscure - it speaks of "the biblical author," for example, leaving open the possibility that there is but one author - but in the context of the times (1943) it was clearly intended as a move beyond Leo's obscurantism. So far as I know, there's been no subsequent encyclical on the subject, and Afflenate represents the Church's current stance on the issue. (You're free to revert my deletion if you wish, I don't want to get involved in an edit war over this minor matter) PiCo (talk) 16:57, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Deleted link
[edit]Orenwhite (talk) 13:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC) Hi Flex, is there any special reason you have removed the external link i've added (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Biblical_theology&oldid=215465326) which is a free bible dictionary? do you find it unrelated to the subject? (becuase i really do
- It is not relevant. The subject of Biblical theology is not an article about theology according to the Bible in the common sense of those words; rather it is a method of study of the progressive history of revelation in the Bible. The discipline is so named for historical reasons, and the name is unfortunately ambiguous. --Flex (talk/contribs) 13:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for providing a reference. I'm particularly interested in the usage of the term "British Isles" in this article. Can you please provide references to show that Greg visited the "British Isles" as opposed to perhaps just "Great Britain" or "Ireland". Thank you. --Bardcom (talk) 17:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- The source supports using "British Isles," and I don't have time right now to do more digging. Do you challenge the reliability of the source? --Flex (talk/contribs) 16:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hi - short answer is I challenge the use of the term "British Isles" - it has probably been used in a context that implies that British Isles = Britain/UK (which is not the same thing). I've emailed the author and the response so far is I do know he spoke in Russia. And somewhere in Britian. I'm still researching though and I hope to find more info. So far, only a visit to Scotland can be confirmed. --Bardcom (talk) 23:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
knetknight's edits
[edit]Flex, thanks for the info. I appreciate your kind correction and informative summary of relevant links to help me contribute in accordance with WP guidelines. I'll read them carefully and proceed from there.
--Stephen, AKA knetknight (talk) 15:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
BTW, Is it appropriate for me to remove your comments from my talk page after I've processed them? I'm not at all bothered by them, just want to keep things clean and figured people could see'em in the page's history if they just really wanted to... not that I seriously think anyone's gonna give a tiddly-wink about my talk page's history but, hey, ya never know.
--Stephen, AKA knetknight (talk) 16:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- You may delete old discussions from your talk page, though general practice is to archive them. See WP:TPG. --Flex (talk/contribs) 16:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Lord Faulkner
[edit]I provided his autobiography, Memoirs of a Statesman, as a reference. He makes numerous allusions to it there; how glad he was to see apple juice, rather than orange and an amusing incident in which he was almost photographed holding a bottle of mead after the Darlington Conference. --Counter-revolutionary (talk) 18:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]I wasn't advertising anything, I have no connection with the Bible Presbyterian Church (about which I had been reading on Wikipedia) or the pictures - I merely thought they showed the impressive scale of McIntire's church building and the startling emphasis given by the Bible text at the front "Be Ye Separate". I used to enjoy editing on Wikipedia 2 or 3 years back, it was a serendipitous place where anyone could edit - now it's like a university. Now on the odd occasions that I contribute something it often gets "vandalised" by the "know-it-alls" :-( Editing has become only available for the anoraks for whom it is a full time occupation and therefore know how to follow the numerous new "rules" and avoid being reverted. What a sad end for an enjoyable project! --PeterR (talk) 16:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- The point is, the link is not directly relevant in that article. We can't go putting everyone's church photos under their denomination's pages and the like, or the Wikipedia would cease being an encyclopedia and would become a directory of links somehow related to a given topic. I'm also sorry for your negative experience with "know-it-alls" and the rules, but you must admit that Wikipedia does need some rules. One needn't master all of them (I certainly haven't) to contribute meaningfully. --Flex (talk/contribs) 17:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Names
[edit]You can revert them back if you think the other version is better. If you do, make the fullname a redirect back to the truncated name. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 00:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Mary merger
[edit]I'm not sure what I think, either for or against the proposal. Each of the articles seems to be written in a kind of thesis style, rather than Wikipedia style. They may be mergeable, but I think it would be a challenge. — Mark (Mkmcconn) ** 22:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Too many quotes
[edit]As mentioned before, your article on alcohol article has strong points and shortcomings. It contains too many quotations for an encyclopedic entry. I refer especially to sentences with up to 10 quotes. I am surprised that you have similar problems with the Luther article, which, I might emphasize, has far less quotations per sentence the the alcohol article. I am sure, all this can be worked out. Nothing personal! --Ambrosius007 (talk) 14:29, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Headings
[edit]Well, I really don't care about headings that much. It probably looked better to me that way, but I am not one to dig into deatils of Wikimanuals on section titles. If you think yours are more suitable, please feel free to change them back. No big deal really.
By the way, I was just about to make changes to Roman Catholic Mariology. Could you please make your changes in 1 hour from now, so you can fix all the headings the right way if you like and we will not get locked out for edit over-writes. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 16:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Flex, for inviting me to take a look at this article. I will do some work on it over the next two days as I find time. Finding time is not difficult because I love editing on WP. BTW, I hope all is well with you and yours. Kindest regards!--Drboisclair (talk) 18:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Unfounded
[edit]I have responded at Talk:Christ Church (Moscow, Idaho)#Unfounded --Andrew from NC (talk) 19:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Troubles with 69.232.79.247
[edit]Hi Flex -
I am having troubles with a user (69.232.79.247) who will not communicate via talk pages or on the talk pages of articles he changes. He continuously changes the number of species at Xenotilapia but will not respond to requests to discuss the matter. I reported the user at Admin intervention against vandalism -- but was told this was a content dispute I should try and discuss to reach a consensus. I would be more than happy to discuss the issue with this user and will happily accept the change if the user in question can proviede a valid reference for their changes. They, however, won't respond. I'd appreciate your thoughts on the matter given you've dealt with this user before @ User_talk:69.232.79.247. Thanks in advance, MidgleyDJ (talk) 02:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- I've had the same problem (s/he wouldn't respond on talk pages or elsewhere), but in my case, the content change was in violation of WP:BLP. What do you think of the user's contributions to articles on specific species (e.g., this one)? --Flex (talk/contribs) 12:54, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
That's the odd thing. This user does know seem to have some knowledge of fish (see: this) and a good portion of his changes are constructive. I do not understand why he will not communicate (he's been asked many, many times). Fishbase is used as the taxonomy tool of choice (when no other species lists etc or review papers in fish taxonomy are available that supersede it). In this case, Fishbase says "17 species" I don't have a reference to contradict this -- and would be happy to accept one if it's available). MidgleyDJ (talk) 20:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- It's possible that the user doesn't get notified when leaving messages on his/her talk page. There was a bug in the Wiki software to that effect, and I'm not sure if it's been fixed. (Also, I suppose if it's a shared address, it's possible that someone else has cleared the message notifications without his/her knowledge.) You could try adding a {{fact}} tag to one of these changes and see what happens. After a suitable amount of wait time, it seems like you could revert to the Fishbased version if not source is added. --Flex (talk/contribs) 21:11, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Flex, Thanks. I'll try that. How long should I leave the tag in place? MidgleyDJ (talk) 22:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'd be generous. Say a month? Of course, if s/he edits the article in between, particularly the place(s) with the tag(s), then you could take the next step. Also leave messages on the article talk page and the user talk page to explain the tags and ask for references. Then if the anon refuses to cooperate, you'll have the high ground from which to argue. --Flex (talk/contribs) 23:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Flex - The user has made the change again (no reference). Given the current reference doesn't reflect that number I've removed it from the article. I've done as you've suggested and asked for a suitable reference? Thanks for your help, MidgleyDJ (talk) 00:15, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Flex - I note that this user has returned and made undiscussed edits to the Greg_Bahnsen article to the point where they (he, I think based on their one registered username) have been blocked. In my experience with this user when he becomes unblocked he will likely return and continue to make the same changes without discussion. I think it's probably sensible to return the verifiable number of Xenotilapia species (and their appropriate reference) to the article? Does this sound ok? MidgleyDJ (talk) 20:06, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- Your prediction of the user's future actions is not unlikely, but s/he was blocked for wholly different reasons (repeated BLP violations) than editing the fish articles without discussion. You might consider leaving the {{fact}}ed statement in there for a bit to see if someone else comes up with something or if s/he returns after the block to provide a source. As a hedge, you could put both of them in (e.g., "some sources say m species,[1] others say n.[citation needed]"). I think you'll have the best position long-term in a dispute or intervention if you don't simply revert. --Flex (talk/contribs) 02:29, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks again for the advice, MidgleyDJ (talk) 07:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Flex -- I note this user continues to vandalise Greg Bahnsen, he's also turned his attention now to Teleocichla where he adds an addition "and X number of undescribed species" repeatedly and without discussion ala his David Arnold addition. Unlike the previous problem with Xenotilapia this is a clear breach of WP:OR (as there may be 5, 6 or 47 undescribed species for any given genus -- given they are undescribed!). I'd have though this user would qualify for longer bans given their track record and block evasion. MidgleyDJ (talk) 23:03, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- S/he has been blocked again. Obviously, s/he has access to multiple addresses, so blocking the intransigent user's access permanently is more difficult (and these are irksome but not grievous offenses anyway). If the problem is isolated to an article or two, you can request semi-protection of the page, which will prohibit anons from editing them and may ease, though perhaps not solve, the problem (cf. [4]). --Flex (talk/contribs) 00:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
re Mergers of Marian articles
[edit]Hello, Flex, you do not need to make any explanations about your desire to streamline these articles. You and I are on the same page. I posted on Ambrosius's talk page that I didn't like the practice of merging that some editors pursue like the guy on the Martin Luther article, who insisted on merging the articles on Luther's father and mother. I see WP as both a Macropedia and a Micropedia: having short articles and long articles. I think that your concern is in not duplicating material: I think that there is the danger now as I looked at Protestant views of Mary of duplicating material in the general article that one finds in the particular articles. I support whatever you propose as I did on the talk page. I appreciate your invitations to me to work on these articles, and I also appreciate your knowledge about WP principles that should be followed. I guess, that if I would take the time to read them more extensively I would not make so many mistakes. Please consider me a good friend and fellow editor.--Drboisclair (talk) 00:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for recommending that book about Mary. I may get it from Amazon.com. Material from that book may be useful for WP.--Drboisclair (talk) 00:42, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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Bahnsen
[edit]I think it is quite fare to mention [the name of] the person who committed adultery with Greg Bahnsen's wife, and it seems completely reasonable to make mention of it. I think you already know this, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.138.240.15 (talk) 23:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree. A name, unlike perhaps the adulterer's status as a fellow church member, has no manifest relevance to Bahnsen, which is the subject of the article. Moreover, it has no source, and such a controversial claim requires one (see WP:V and WP:BLP). For the record, I have no dog in this fight -- I didn't know Bahnsen, I don't know anyone in his former church, I don't know the adulterer, etc. It is purely that this fact is irrelevant and in violation of policy. Also, your persistence makes it appear that you have some grudge against the adulterer, and such overt bias has no place here (see WP:NPOV). --Flex (talk/contribs) 01:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
[edit]Thanks for clarifying at my talk page as I requested. I see that you are correct, a policy does state this explicitly and it does make sense. I also appreciate that you've left the current redlink in place. I'll fill it in today.
I was surprised that the Book Review policy is against tables of contents, though the way it puts it, it would appear that there is plenty of room for common sense exceptions. Festschriften and other collections of essays naturally lend themselves to some concise system of organizing the information. Run-of-the-mill book reviews don't need to specify different authors for different chapters! ;)
In the current case, it's easy to follow the letter of the law and expand the material to full text, since the structure of the total work is very clear. Additionally, the table can also be turned neatly into a collapsing nav tool. Ultimately, all the material in the table will need to be in the article, simply for the sake of acknowledgement and referencing.
You have a very detailed knowledge of specifics of policy, which is a helpful resource to have around, thanks. Since policy regularly explicitly admits exceptions on the basis of clarity of content we may yet find ourselves needing to discuss some issue in more detail, but I'm content to accept the points you've raised so far, especially as they simply invite more material to be included. Alastair Haines (talk) 02:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Image source problem with Image:Archibald_Alexander_Hodge.jpg
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Headings on Mariology
[edit]Hi, I am working on reducing the term Mariology on the headings of the Mariology page, but I am trying to do that so they still telegram the message e.g. just the word "Nature" as a heading was not that clear to me as a reader. It may take a week or so to think of good headings. You were right that there were too many of them, but I think a middle ground to it can probably be found. Cheers History2007 (talk) 11:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I have now reduced the use of Mariology in the headings, based on your suggestion. Cheers History2007 (talk) 17:23, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Anniversary of John Calvin
[edit]Hi Flex, As you know, I have been working on improving the biographies of various characters of the Reformation (Knox, Zwingli, Cranmer, and now working on Martin Bucer) to FA status. Someone reminded me, however, that the 500th anniversary of John Calvin's birth is coming up next year. This got me interested in taking up this project. I noticed that you were the major editor of the article taking the article to GA. Would you mind if I try to take the article to FA? I should mention that I'd like to expand the biography and merge the Reformed Geneva section into the Biography section. I intend to use modern sources for the rewrite. The Thoughts and Writings sections would be left intact and I would probably add a Legacy section. If you have plans on Calvin, however, I would gladly just go back to working on Bucer and other reformers. Just drop me a note on my talk page. --RelHistBuff (talk) 09:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- I would be delighted to have you rewrite the article. Let me know how I can help. (BTW, I'm technically on a Wikibreak right now, so email me if it's urgent.) --Flex (talk/contribs) 18:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I have to do some research so it might take me a while to get started. The university library here has a lot of high quality sources (McGrath, Bouwsma, McKim, Parker,...). After I get some subsections drafted, I will drop a note asking for your feedback. --RelHistBuff (talk) 14:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Gunton discussion
[edit]Please see this. Gunton82 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC).
www.book-academy.co.uk- external links on various articles
[edit]Dear Flex
I have not visited Wikipedia in some time but noticed on a recent visit that external links that I had placed on various articles on the leading Puritans had been removed by MER-C. I noticed that you had appealed to him to reinstate some of these, but he was convinced that these links were spam and therefore they were left omitted.
I wrote to him recently on his talk page and it appears that his main objection was that I was the one who had placed them there and that in his mind (irrespective of how relevant those links were) it constitutes a conflict of interest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MER-C#external_links_to_www.book-academy.co.uk).
Since I am not allowed to reinstate the links, can you help in this?
Sadly, in his zeal he has also removed the link from the "Spurgeon" article, even though I had nothing to do with placing the external link on that article, and since there is no other site known to me which gives access to so many of Spurgeon recommended commentaries I do feel that its removal is rather sad.
The puritan links that were removed are all highlighted at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/book-academy.co.uk
If you can do anything to help, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
SC80.42.211.63 (talk) 22:49, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
sock puppet block
[edit]Why have you blocked my user profile? Tweedledum and Tweedledee (talk) 17:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- I think you have the wrong person. I am not an administrator and cannot block anyone. --Flex (talk/contribs) 00:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Peer Review
[edit]Hello. Just wanted to let you know that I submitted Calvin to PR. I would appreciate it if you can take a look at the article so far and place your comments on the PR. I also have a question. You had uploaded John Calvin - Young.jpg and I was wondering how did you know that this is a portrait of Calvin when he was young. I didn't note that in the caption because I had no source to support that statement. If you have the source, then we could state that the painting is a portrait of Calvin when he was young and add a citation. --RelHistBuff (talk) 07:28, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- I did a quick search, and I don't know where "young" came from for that picture. I do note that the source image I indicated in the image details is flipped relative to the one in the article (but the faded writing appears to be backwards, so I think the WP's version may be right). I also see that Titian has a painting of Calvin that looks quite different than the more common ones. Perhaps that would be worth including. I'll try to make some PR comments later. I am on WP vacation after all. :-) --Flex (talk/contribs) 15:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- OK. You can take your time on the PR as I will not likely put it on the FAC queue until the new year. Real life takes priority, of course! --RelHistBuff (talk) 16:11, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Image permission problem with Image:Stephane Mallat.jpg
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[edit]Thanks for the barnstar, but I think we should wait until someone supports the article! I might need your help on the commas. I am not sure of several of these, e.g., "one of its members, Ami Perrin," "a widow, Idelette de Bure," "the leading reformers of Strasbourg, Martin Bucer and Wolfgang Capito," "his predecessors, Philipp Melanchthon, Heinrich Bullinger, and Martin Bucer," They all seem to be non-restrictive and so they should not have delimiting commas. But then the sentence structure looks awfully strange. --RelHistBuff (talk) 23:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that it sometimes looks weird. Let's focus on the cases where it doesn't and worry about the tricky ones later, or we could restructure sentences to remove the oddness in the others. --Flex (talk/contribs) 19:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]With respect, I consider Venus relevant to Edward's life and our understanding of him, not just "an interesting but unrelated factoid." Also, the article is currently rather sketchy, and the info about Venus is one of many things I've learned about Edwards' family that I intended to insert. Regards,Rich (talk) 05:56, 20 January 2009 (UTC)Rich (talk) 06:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- See Talk:Jonathan_Edwards_(theologian)#the_slavegirl_Venus. --Flex (talk/contribs) 15:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- I replied to your reply on talk page.Rich (talk) 06:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]Is it wise to add new material during the FAC phase? I am referring to the last paragraph of the Legacy section and the last sentence of the lead section. I don't necessarily disagree with them, but there is already enough material to discuss and I think new topics will simply extend FAC discussions. Could you please reconsider and then we can discuss the additions on the talk page after FAC? --RelHistBuff (talk) 09:06, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- I went ahead and temporarily removed it. --RelHistBuff (talk) 12:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- The reason I added it was because one of the FA commenters (rightly, IMHO) noted that Calvin is not set in a broader historical context, and my additions were an attempt to do that, albeit briefly. Those are common assertions about his influence on Western Civ. Here's a summary article from a popular-level magazine describing Calvin which ends with a description of his lasting legacy in the West: "Calvin finally wore out in 1564. But his influence has not. Outside the church, his ideas have been blamed for and credited with (depending on your view) the rise of capitalism, individualism, and democracy. In the church, he has been a major influence on leading figures such as evangelist George Whitefield and theologian Karl Barth, as well as entire movements, such as Puritanism." There are plenty of scholarly books and articles on the topic, too, which is to say that I think the information I added was not controversial but is widely accepted by historians and political scientists. --Flex (talk/contribs) 15:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- As I said, I don't necessarily disagree with them. However, it would be best that we hear what Ealdgyth wants specifically and respond to that. The FAC process can be rather precarious. --RelHistBuff (talk) 16:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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Jonathan Edwards and the slave Venus
[edit]Hi Flex, I've replied to your post of last month on the talk page. Regards, Rich (talk) 18:09, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]The name was changed, and the autonomy too.
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[edit]Hi Flex. I know you've been particularly good at helping to settle controversial biographies in the past. Could use some help over at this page John_L._Brownlee. A politician's supporters keep deleting references to negative public information...
Thx. Cadwallader (talk) 20:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]I replied on the talk page. Best, Rich Peterson75.45.106.99 (talk) 05:33, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi I was interrupted in my last reply by the library system and had to save without finishing.I resumed with "...piecemeal..." and I thankyou for the reply you already made, and apologize for any inconvenience.Rich (talk) 08:07, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
I have conducted a reassessment of this article's GA status. I have placed the reassessment on hold as there are some points to be addressed at Talk:Either/Or/GA1#GA_Reassessment. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Alcohol in the Bible
[edit]I put this up as a Featured Article candidate, but someone thought I should do a peer review first. Arlen22 (talk) 15:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
How do I do that? Arlen22 (talk) 16:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for thinking so highly of the article. Peer reviews can be sought at WP:PR. However, I think some of the recent revisions should be undone or done differently. On the whole, I prefer this version. Eventually, I'll get around to reworking it, but I haven't had time lately.
- Also, I had it peer reviewed once and tried to get it to FAC twice without success, as you can see in the article milestones at the top of the talk page. Part of the problem is that it references the primary source of the Bible extensively, which it must do given the article topic but which some take to be a gross violation of WP:PSTS. How can that be done more neutrally than it already is? I honestly don't know.
- Also, the hyper-footnoting, which was partly in reaction to people (mostly prohibitionists) demanding citations for various things, has been declared to be problematic. Some of it could be fixed by formatting changes -- convert [1][2][3] to [1] with a bulleted list in the footnote like Islam does, but that has its own problems when it comes to reusing a quote/footnote. Another approach is simply to cut out many of the footnote quotes/notes, but I tend to want to keep most of them. Perhaps some could be moved to Wikiquote? --Flex (talk/contribs) 19:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, I can see that this article would create problems. Prohibitionism only exist because we don't use wine as a common drink any more. In other words, like water or milk. Arlen22 (talk) 18:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello I have done a GA Reassessment of the Alcohol in the Bible article as part of the GA Sweeps project. My reassessment can be found here. I have found that the article does not meet the current GA Criteria and as such I have placed it on hold for one week pending work. I am notifying you as the primary editor of this in the hopes that an editor will come forth to work on the article. I see from a previous entry on your talk page you are familiar with many of the concerns regarding this article. Should you have questions please contact me at my talk page. H1nkles (talk) 20:06, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]First, I again apologize if my editing of Alcohol in the Bible was inconsiderate of the work you've put into it.
Second, are you Calvinist? If so, I'd like to ask you about something I read in a magazine from Calvin Theological Seminary. Just curious about Calvinist/Catholic povs. Thanks! carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 16:25, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
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