User talk:JBW

This account was previously known as JamesBWatson, but was renamed to JBW on 19 September 2019. Neither James nor Watson is my real name. Please post new sections at the bottom of the page. If you don't, there is a risk that your message may never be noticed, if other edits follow it before I get here.

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Hi, JB, remember this from last month? "Bishonen once said something along the lines of "... like how we always block any account with "Truth" in its user page on sight. Well, actually we don't, but maybe we should." She was spot on, and the same probably applies to names with "Right" in them."

Well, we now have someone called TheCorrector111 removing large swaths of content with little explanation.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 20:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Skywatcher68: I have blocked the account. Years ago in cases like this I used to go through AGF and friendly talk page warnings, but it was a waste of time, as such editors are never interested in listening to anyone else, and they end up blocked anyway, so I now move to the block much more quickly. As for the point about user names, I find having "correct" in them is a little less reliable an indication than "truth" and "right", as occasionally it really is someone who has created an account to correct some error, but it's certainly a flag that the user is worth watching for a while. JBW (talk) 21:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello JBW, I believe you may have mistakenly deleted SurrealDB under WP:G4 which excludes pages that have undergone improvement.

There's a more detailed explanation I have made at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#SurrealDB_speedy_deleted_after_significant_changes

I understand the page was recreated so quickly after the original AfD, however, the company had raised $20m in USD, plus the launch of their cloud beta service which got some media attention which I believe now would establish notability, plus an additional number of other sources I was able to find.

I would like to have the page undeleted and undergo an additional AfD due to these changes, and I understand how you may not have noticed this.

Let me know what you think. Mr Vili talk 10:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr vili: and, in case it's of interest, Black Kite

1. What happened to the days when it was standard practice to consult the deleting administrator frst, and only have recourse to other venues if that did not produce an outcome that one was willing to accept?
2. For what it's worth, if I had just been asked I would have restored the page. I do not regard the changes you made to it as sufficient to justify recreating it in the face of the outcome of the deletion discussion, but many years ago I decided that there is so much divergence of opinion about how much change is needed to invalidate a G4 deletion that it just isn't worth arguing about if anyone contests it.
3. Mr vili, you seem to have a very strong devotion to the cause of keeping this article. Do you have a personal connection to it, such as being one of the developers of "SurrealDB", or some other connection?
4. A number if things you have said in relation to this article have suggested that your opinions are to some extent based on misunderstandings of the relevant guidelines or policies. For example, in the deletion discussion you said, apparently in answer to comments about the article being promotional, "additionally, currently the company has nothing to gain by 'selling' it on Wikipedia, the database is open sourced"; however, Wikipedia's policy is that no kind of promotional material is allowed, not just promotion for financial gain. JBW (talk) 12:58, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Regarding 1. I apologize for not consulting you first, I should've asked first. Regarding 3. No, I have no personal connection to SurrealDB, except using it as a developer. Regarding 4. I believe the article, if it was written in a promotional tone, is an issue that should be highlighted and fixed by editors if possible as opposed to being thrown in the bin or being used as an argument for deletion.

   Of course, I am only one editor and the way I write may not be WP:NOTPERFECT, and I encourage other editors to improve the article collaboratively.

   What do you think is the next best course of action? Personally I think it will survive a new AfD given the new sources I have found, as well as the new recent events involving the topic. Mr Vili talk 13:56, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you undelete my wikipedia page for Arizona Arts so I can edit the post to make it fit the guidelines. Since you deleted it I am unable to start over and since I was assigned to create a wiki page for my workplace (Arizona Arts) I would appreciate if you could undo what you did. I read that after a page gets declined I can edit it until I get it right, but you ruined things. Arilynndh (talk) 20:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there were no other considerations I would be reluctant to restore such material, written from start to finish as a piece of marketing copy, but I would consider possibly doing so. However, there is another problem. The page consisted substantially, and perhaps entirely, of material copied from the web site of the university, some of it verbatim, some of it very closely paraphrased. That is contrary to Wikipedia's copyright policy, and restoring it is not permitted by policy. Such copied text would not be allowed to be posted anywhere on Wikipedia unless the University were to provide an unambiguous statement that the text is freely licensed for anyone in the world to reuse, either as it is or modified in any way whatsoever, for any purpose whatsoever, subject only to suitable attribution to the Wikipedia page in question. It seems to me highly improbable that will happen. JBW (talk) 07:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy adminship anniversary! Hi JBW! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please also look into User:Alejitao123/sandbox5. It claims that a requirement for Argentine citizenship is to "Convert to the communism." It also claims that "Argentine Russian-language ability" used to be a requirement for citizenship. Thank you, Air on White (talk) 21:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Air on White: Thank you for pointing that out. I have deleted the page. As you may have seen, I had already deleted a number of userspace pages from that editor. I was tempted to just delete everything in their userspace, but that would be questionable. Checking each one individually was a slow procedure, as in many cases the vandalism is well hidden, and I evidently missed that bit. I will put some more time into the task, and of course you are very welcome to point out any clear cases that you see. JBW (talk) 07:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]