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July 2014[edit]

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Dates of Bosnian War[edit]

Baba Mica, I have tried to explain WP policy about RS, I have tried to be helpful in explaining the difference between what is generally regarded as the start date of an event, and other events which led up to that event. You appear to be uninterested in either of these, so be it. I do not wish to continue the discussion on my talk page, because your arguments are WP:OR and WP:other stuff exists.Pincrete (talk) 12:45, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Baba Mica, you also need to pay attention to WP:BRD. Once you've had an edit reverted, you need to discuss your proposed additions on the article's talk page rather than just making the same or a similar edit again. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:30, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

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Your article Ледене очи[edit]

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Unsourced addition[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm Cordless Larry. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Somali Civil War, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:54, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I certainly can. Just looking for a reference. :) --Baba Mica (talk) 22:01, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Before reinstating the date with a reference, I suggest reading Note 1 and the extensive discussion on the article talk page that resulted in that note. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:06, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

I found a source that confirms January 26, 1991 for the start of the civil war in Somalia.--Baba Mica (talk) 22:10, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, but the point made in that note is that different sources give different start dates. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:22, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Here's one of my case. I fought for years I ispamovao pages around the date of the beginning Bosnian War. Baba Mica (talk) 22:39, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

They did not want to admit that the war began with the murder of Serbian civilians in Bascarsija on March 1, 1992. The international community believes that the start of the war on April 6 It is a day of recognition of the independent state of Bosnia and Herzegovina. He ignored all previous conflicts. The same dispute over the date of the beginning of the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina had on Russian Wikipedia where not only do not recognize the true beginning of the war on March 1. They are even bigger hypocrites, where as in accordance with rules that do not insult the other warring parties. Then they put the date as the beginning of the war in the spring of 1992. :D It's funny and sad at the same time.--Baba Mica (talk) 22:55, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Iraq humanitarian assistance[edit]

Feel free to wipe humanitarian assistance in Iraq. The infoboxes are reserved for military matters only. EkoGraf (talk) 01:50, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Battle of Aleppo (2012–2016)[edit]

The anonymous user is correct. Offensive is not over until they capture all of the districts. Pro-Kurdish twitter user not reliable sources until major media outlets also report it. EkoGraf (talk) 01:10, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Didn't understand totally your last message but, the main article is about the battle for the city, not the province. The offensive article is specifically about rebels vs SAA (and SDF). No battle between SAA and Kurds. No reliable sources have yet confirmed the capture of the last half a dozen districts. EkoGraf (talk) 01:33, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
They are celebrating yes. But it has not totally ended. The rebels are still holding out in three districts. EkoGraf (talk) 01:56, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Wadi Barada[edit]

Hello, there are currently 2 articles about the battle in Wadi Barada, the Siege of Wadi Barada and the Wadi Barada offensive, both created on 27 December with a mere 3 hour difference. What do you think? Shouldn't they be merged? Editor abcdef (talk) 23:36, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Palmyra offensive (2016–17)[edit]

I would gladly do it but its a technical revert (since there already existed a previous article with the same name) and only an administrator can do it. EkoGraf (talk) 21:45, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

There are dozens of them. The request has to be posted at an appropriate administrator noticeboard. EkoGraf (talk) 02:15, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Dayr Hafir[edit]

Its still the same offensive, not a separate one, that was started in the direction of al-Bab as part of the Battle of al-Bab. Also, its still taking place in the Al-Bab Plateau. It would not make sense to make an article for an offensive from a start date that's weeks after the actual offensive started and ignore the previous one month of the offensive. It would be Original Research. EkoGraf (talk) 11:53, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Also, there's the question of notability as per Wikipedia policy on whether it would deserve its own article or not even if it wasn't part of the Battle of al-Bab during the first month. And the offensive is actually still pretty much part of the Battle of al-Bab since the SAA is still making attempts to capture Tadef (1 km from al-Bab). EkoGraf (talk) 11:59, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

2017 Khanasir offensive[edit]

See talk page. Not just me but another editor as well voiced concern regarding the reliability and also notability of the article. There are no sources confirming that there has been an organised offensive taking place by ether side near Khanasir, other than short-term assaults perpetrated by ether side. The capture of the eastern bank of the lake is more linked to the currently ongoing SAA offensive further north at the Kweires air-base and Al-Bab, and has already been mentioned in that article. Also, some of the sources you cited not only make no mention of an offensive but are unreliable and not accepted by Wikipedia standards (such as youtube and http://isis.liveuamap.com). EkoGraf (talk) 20:45, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Daraa ISIL offensive[edit]

Feel free to create a new article for ISIL's offensive in Daraa province. But don't lump it together with the rebel's offensive in Daraa city. Its a separate military operation. EkoGraf (talk) 18:13, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

As for the other battles you mentioned. They may or may not happen, but until they do we cann't create any articles per Wikipedia's policy (WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL). EkoGraf (talk) 18:31, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
There is no real Qaboun offensive. So far it has only been a few clashes around the district and some shelling but no real all-out assault on the district. So unless there is a large-scale operation taking place there is no reason to create an article for it. The offensive in eastern Aleppo by the SAA shouldn't be called Lake Assad offensive since its not the common term nor is it actually taking place near the lake (yet). I'll come up with a title myself and create an article for it tomorrow or the day after when I find the time. As for the ISIL offensive in Daraa, I would suggest the title ISIL Daraa offensive (February 2017) and we rename the other one to Rebel Daraa offensive (February 2017). EkoGraf (talk) 21:28, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I already warned you this is against Wikipedia policy regarding WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. The article you created Al-Quaboun offensive itself says per cited sources that a ground offensive has not started yet and that only artillery firing has so far took place. And also, you again cited liveumap which is not considered a reliable source by Wikipedia. Other media outlets also report that sporadic negotiations are still taking place to try and prevent any offensive. Wikipedia does not predict possible future events that could take place. This article is a prediction that also violates Wikipedia policy regarding Original Research. If no real ground offensive takes place in the next few days the article will have to be redirected. Only artillery shelling does not count. EkoGraf (talk) 14:50, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Also, there is the issue of notability of the event. Wikipedia does not create articles for every possible minor clash or short-term operation that takes place in the conflict. Unless something is notable it does not deserve an article per Wikipedia policy. IF a ground offensive does take place, we will see if it becomes notable enough to warrant keeping the article. EkoGraf (talk) 14:55, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Aleppo offensive[edit]

East Aleppo offensive (February 2017) done as I said. EkoGraf (talk) 16:40, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Western Aleppo offensive[edit]

Hasn't become notable or large yet. We should wait a few more days to see how things play out. EkoGraf (talk) 23:42, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Palmyra offensive (2017)[edit]

Mr. EkoGraf, I think it is not appropriate title of the article Palmyra offensive (2017). Why do I say? Because it's still early. No offensive began on 12 January at Palmira, but the entire eastern province of Homs. Similarly, you submitted to the Al-Qaboun offensive (February 2017) I opened the paper prematurely. However, there are offensive in this village and who are fighting for the settlements. For Palmira battle has not started yet. Maybe tomorrow, the day after tomorrow ... But has not the Syrian army reached the entrance to the city. I think the title of Eastern Homs offensive (January-February 2017) the most appropriate until they start fighting for the city of Palmyra. Then you should open a new article Palmyra offensive (2017). It is very soon. --Baba Mica (talk) 18:02, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

No need for a new article. Current fighting is a continuation of the offensive that started at T4 on January 13 (Palmyra offensive (2017)). Its now obvious the offensive was launched with the intent of recapturing the whole Palmyra area. LightandDark2000 already properly renamed the article so it fits with the established template of all of the previous Palmyra offensive articles. Also, the previous SAA-led offensive a year ago was also launched not so far from T4 like the current one. Previously all of our Palmyra offensive articles included both the fighting in the city as well as in the desert and mountains outside it (like now). We never make articles for just the fighting inside the city because its usually a battle that lasts only a few hours or a day or two. So, everything is as it should be. We just continue editing Palmyra offensive (2017). EkoGraf (talk) 17:43, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
No sources that the entire eastern Homs province territory is the goal of the offensive. Sources at the moment indicate the only goal of the offensive is to retake areas that they lost in ISIL's December offensive, which is Palmyra and the areas around it. Speculating that Palmyra is just a stopover would be unsourced Original Research. EkoGraf (talk) 20:10, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Whether you or me think Palmyra is significant or not does not really matter. Per Wikipedia's policy, notability is established based on how notable established sources think it is. And at the moment, all available sources regard Palmyra as notable enough. Plus, like I already said before, this is according to the already previous established naming template we have set with the previous offensives, see: Palmyra offensive (May 2015), Palmyra offensive (July–August 2015), Palmyra offensive (March 2016) and Palmyra offensive (December 2016). As for the Manbij article that you want to create. At the moment there is no need for an article, because the current Rebel/Turkish vs SDF/Kurdish fighting is sufficiently covered in the East Aleppo offensive (February 2017) article. IF and WHEN the rebels and Turkey really do launch a large-scale organised offensive towards Manbij we will see about creating an article, but for now they seem primarily intent on possibly reaching Arima and, like I said, we already are covering that as part of the East Aleppo offensive article. EkoGraf (talk) 02:41, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Serbian-Russian cooperation on Syria[edit]

The support sections of military infoboxes are reserved only for those who provide logistical/weapon military support to one of the belligerents. Its not reserved for those that provide humanitarian or political support. In regard to your five sources: 1st makes no mention of any kind of support by Serbia to Syria; 2nd and 3rd talk about humanitarian (not military) assistance provided; 4th talks about political (not military) support to Russia (not even Syria); 5th speculates about possible (emphasis on speculates and possible) Serb military assistance to the humanitarian mission (not that it actually was provided), and the source also notes the Serbian Ministry of Defense rejected any involvement by the Serbian military because Serbian laws do not allow it. That Russia provides support to Serbia in regards to Srebrenica and Kosovo has no impact on the Syria conflict, because these are two totally different subjects. Also, none of the sources provided state anything about Serbian weapons support to Syria. EkoGraf (talk) 01:17, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Baba Mica, have you paid attention to anything EkoGraf has explained to you? You've tried to reintroduce the same misleading content a couple of times since he left this message for you (here and here). Please stop trying to slow edit-war incorrect content back into the infobox. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:40, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for the compliment. I am instead of edited images Microsoft Picture Manager, but I do not like the picture because of too low resolution. Remove immediately. Do not wait a week. I hope I can arrange better resolution? --Baba Mica (talk) 03:16, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

If you need a license, I'll paint a Sony camera. I have a license for it.--Baba Mica (talk) 03:20, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for the tip administrators, podrudići that postavimn permission. Three days and three nights make this article. My eyes fell out. I will certainly seek advice from other members and personal friends.--Baba Mica (talk) 22:53, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mosul-Deir Ezzor-Palmyra offensive[edit]

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There is really no evidence that the two offensives are coordinated at all. The Eastern Homs offensive towards Deir ez-Zor and the Nineveh-Anbar offensive in Iraq are completely different operations. A lot of content in this article are unrelated information, for example the Shayrat strike and the northern Hama offensive.

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Be careful while editing please[edit]

You removed a lot of notable information in your edit on Battle of Mosul (2016–present). I doubt you did it on purpose, this kind of mistake has been done by me too before. But please be careful that you aren't accidentally removing any data. While editing, you can preview your edit on both desktop and mobile so you can see if you hadn't made any mistakes. Of course you can add or edit what you want but please take care that you aren't accidentally removing any data. Please be careful while you edit. Thank you. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 18:04, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

The information you removed concerns battle in Mosul as well, including your removing of events that happened inside Mosul. But the battle outside isn't different, it's under the same operation to cut off ISIL's escape and dismantle control in Nineveh. The battle extends to more than Mosul. Besides I suspect it will be over soon. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 07:22, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I corrected your mistakes. And sorry but the battle in the west isn't separated. The offensive is for Nineveh as well to isolate and defeat ISIS in Mosul. You can see this on the article. And they're being carried out under the same operation. Sorry but your assertion isn't making much sense. We will establish a separate article for offensives in west of the country after this one ends as it won't be the same anymore. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 21:35, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I cannot understand what you are talking about. But if you want to cut the article of Battle of Mosul then you'll have to get a consensus or even more appropriately an RfC as it's a big change and it's unwise to do it by yourself. We can create a seaparate Nineveh offensive later and if they go into Syria. But right now it's all for isloating ISIL Mosul completely and cutting off any escape attempts or attempts at any ISIL counter-attack to recapture Mosul. When it's finished as it likely might soon as a final assault is beginning, please start a new article if you have consensus of course. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 23:48, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Southern Syrian Desert offensive (May 2017–present)[edit]

You should focus on updating this article Southern Syrian Desert offensive (May 2017–present). EkoGraf (talk) 17:18, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

North Syrian desert offensive[edit]

It was discussed and the word southern from the Southern Syrian desert offensive was removed, because geographically, the southern part of the Syrian desert is actually in Saudi Arabia. If there is an offensive following the capture of Maskanah and the conclusion of the current Syrian desert offensive, we will see where it takes place and according to its location we will name it. If, for example, its an offensive launched toward Deir ez-Zor, with that city being the clear target, then yeah that would be an appropriate name. EkoGraf (talk) 15:20, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Nope, sources have stated the attack on the Arak gas fields was part of the currently ongoing offensive throughout the Syrian desert, not a part of a push towards Deir ez-Zor. Furthermore, sources have stated that the currently ongoing offensive throughout the Syrian desert has the goal to prepare conditions for an eventual offensive towards Deir ez-Zor in the future. The offensive towards Deir ez-Zor has not started yet. EkoGraf (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
De jure or de facto, until sources say it has started we can not presume anything. Per Wikipedia's policy we are prohibited from predicting or assuming future events and creating articles based on those kinds of assumptions, read WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL please. EkoGraf (talk) 19:02, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Deir ez-Zor offensive[edit]

When an offensive, with the ultimate goal being Deir ez-Zor, is announced, then we can open a new article. We cann't open an article based on speculation. The Iraqi PMF push that started west of Mosul on May 12th was announced to be the second phase of the offensive that started on April 25th which aims to seal the border with Syria. No mention of Deir ez-Zor in their goals. EkoGraf (talk) 22:34, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Do you think this offensive worthy of an article?[edit]

Hello, this was ongoing for few days already, offensive in Eastern Hama governorate, I am not sure about creating articles from scratch, made just 1 or 2 like that, I'm not sure if it deserves articles of its own, but ive seen much smaller operations having articles of their own. Here is example source of it: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pictures-saa-launches-massive-operation-isis-east-hama-countryside/ , can find more if needed. Asking for your opinion because I see you have created many articles and probably got more experience than me in this department. GroundlessAir (talk) 17:38, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Daraa offensive[edit]

Read what I wrote per the sources both in the new article you created and in the previous offensive article. There are no sources regarding June 2nd, for June 3rd it was the rebels who attacked first and the Army retaliated the next day (June 4th) with shelling, which some speculated it could also be preparation for the new SAA offensive, but that it had not started yet. On June 7th, this source [1] clearly says the offensive has started. EkoGraf (talk) 19:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

That there were fighting and casualties between June 2nd and 7th doesn't mean that there was an offensive. Anyway, I provided you with the source which clearly says the offensive was launched today. EkoGraf (talk) 19:45, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Mosul-Deir Ezzor-Palmyra offensive[edit]

First, so far, there are no sources confirming any kind of Iraqi military intervention in Syria or any kind of joint Palmira-Mosul offensive. Second, the current fighting at Arak has been sourced to be one of the six active fronts as part of the Syrian Desert offensive (May 2017–present) and it is already covered in that article. So there is no point in creating a separate article for Arak, since the offensive of which it is a part of already exists. If you want to update the clashes taking place at Arak, feel free to updated the already existing article. EkoGraf (talk) 23:05, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Raqqa campaign[edit]

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As I said before, the SAA's offensive west of Raqqa is separate from the SDF's Raqqa campaign. There is no such thing as the 6th phase of the campaign yet, and you're just making it up yourself. The SAA offensive should only be included in the aftermath of the Maskanah Plains offensive and not as a phase here. Editor abcdef (talk) 01:14, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Maskanah Plains offensive and Raqqa campaign (2016-present)[edit]

Nope. The Raqqa campaign (2016-present) is about the SDF-led campaign. SAA operations west of Raqqah are separate. EkoGraf (talk) 02:17, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Article East Hama offensive (2017) should be moved[edit]

For consistency with other articles East Hama offensive (2017) should be moved to Eastern Hama offensive (2017). I don't know how exactly to move an article so asking you, since you created it, also recently updated the article with some SAA progress. As I mentioned before this move is needed for consistency, because for example Eastern Homs offensive (2017) refers to eastern part of Homs Governorate, while East Aleppo offensive (January–April 2017) refers to eastern part of Aleppo city, thus having offensive with word "East" can be misleading into making people think there was some fighting in Hama city. Hope you'll find some time for the moving of the article, thank you in advance. GroundlessAir (talk) 12:03, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Al-Sukhnah offensive[edit]

First, the article you created was a fork article, because the subject was already covered in the article Syrian Desert campaign (May 2017–present). Read WP:REDUNDANTFORK for more information in this regard. Such articles are merged. Second, all editors (except you) so far agreed that the current fighting that is still taking place near Arak, in an attempt to push towards Sukhnah, was part of the overall Syrian Desert campaign. Plus, sources have stated it as such. Third, in the infobox you created it was written Syrian Army enters Al-Sukhnah. Please seek consensus with other editors on the issue through talk at Syrian Desert campaign (May 2017–present) instead of unilaterally forking the article. So to summarize, the current fighting along the Arak-Suknah road already has an article (Syrian Desert campaign) and is covered in there. A separate article is redundant. Thanks! EkoGraf (talk) 17:56, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

PS I read your earlier message regarding Sukhnah. That you consider Al-Sukhnah special and that it does not belong to Syrian Desert offensive (May 2017-present) is your personal opinion, which you are entitled to, but we can not edit Wikipedia based on personal opinions per its policy. Sources have stated that fighting on this axis of advance is part of the desert campaign, and we edit per sources. Also, there is the matter of notability. The SAA's general campaign throughout the Syrian desert in this part of the country is notable, and thus per WP policy deserves its own article. A Sukhnah offensive or battle so far is not notable. IF it does become notable then yes a separate article can be made. Read WP:NOTABILITY in this regard. Finally, in the article you created, you cited that on 22 June the SAA reported an offensive towards Sukhnah had started. But the cited source said no such thing. In fact, it said the SAA continue to grab more territories, which means this is a continuation of a previous operation. And (again) the Arak-Sukhnah battlefront was previously cited by sources to be part of the desert campaign, regardless of our personal opinions. EkoGraf (talk) 18:09, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
One more thing, a large portion of the text you put was a copy-paste of the cited sources, which is a violation of WP:COPYPASTE, per which we are not allowed to do this. EkoGraf (talk) 18:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
Most of the texts are mostly some copies from the media. What are you wondering about? That is the problem, again, read WP:COPYPASTE, we are not allowed to copy texts from the sources, its considered a copy-violation and is prohibited per WP policy. Regarding Maskanah, I originally named it as a Eastern Aleppo offensive, but another editor renamed it to Maskanah Plains Offensive. I did not object to the rename, because sources were generally referring to the offensive taking place in the Maskanah Plains. As for all the others names, we name them per the common name in the sources, read WP:COMMONNAME. At the moment, no sources actually confirm any kind of Al-Sukhnah offensive. We (personally) do not determine if Qaboun and Jobar are more important than Al-Sukhnah. Notability is established based on sources, again, read WP:NOTABILITY. The offensive in Qaboun was highly notable in the mainstream media, and that's why there's an article. As for Jobar, you created it, I personally wouldn't have because it hasn't been really notable in the mainstream media, but it has gotten a little attention so I didn't object to its creation. Also, please read WP:CIVIL and WP:GOODFAITH. Thank you. EkoGraf (talk) 23:31, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

As you created[edit]

Daraa offensive (June 2017), i have a question for you: is this article not the same subject as Daraa offensive (February–June 2017)? Just hard to see logic behind this branching-off.Axxxion 22:18, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Also, please read User talk:EkoGraf/Archive2018 1#Request for: this is for you as well: please note that it is not tongue-in-cheek, or suchlike: the articles in question are really perfectly unhelpful in the way the are written.Axxxion (talk) 22:22, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Daraa offensive (June 2017) is a military operation launched by the Syrian Arab Army and allies against rebel positions in the SOUTHERN half of Daraa city.″ (my capitalisation); the infobox says: ″Syrian Army captures at least 50% of the Daraa Refugee Camp″. The website of UNRWA states that the ″Dera'a refugee camp is located north of Dera’a City″ ( https://www.unrwa.org/where-we-work/syria/deraa-camp ) It does not quite add up, does it? Perhaps more background info is called for, as i have pointed out; otherwise all this tactical minutiae is plain meaningless.Axxxion (talk) 22:36, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Daraa offensive (February–June 2017) was a rebel-initiated offensive, with the aim of capturing the Manshiyah District of Daraa city. It ended with the rebel capture of 95 percent of the district. Daraa offensive (June 2017) is a currently ongoing Syrian Army-initiated offensive, with the aim of capturing the Palestinian refugee camp. So these are two separate offensives for which we have two separate articles. The UNRWA sentence Dera'a refugee camp is located north of Dera’a City is factually incorrect. Since its establishment 65+ years ago, it has actually become a residential district of Daraa city itself and is located in the east-central part of the town as seen here on the map [2]. The lead sentence of the Daraa offensive (June 2017) article says ...in the SOUTHERN half of Daraa city because Daraa city is currently bisected between a government-controlled north and rebel-controlled south, with the refugee camp district being just within the southern half portion of the city. Also, the Army attacked two other southern rebel-held districts of the city, and not just the Palestinian area. EkoGraf (talk) 00:35, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Central Syria campaign (July 2017–present)[edit]

Article made Central Syria campaign (July 2017–present). EkoGraf (talk) 13:23, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Super. :)--Baba Mica (talk) 10:34, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Kosovo war[edit]

The discussion was moved to the article talk page. There other editors can join in. I always keep my talk page 'tidy' by deleting anything which I have dealt with. Pincrete (talk) 11:43, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

If content is disputed, we return to the old version until there is new agreement. Additionally you (twice, accidentally?) added 130,000 bytes of repetition to the article. Make your point on article talk. Pincrete (talk) 12:30, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

August 2017[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Syrian Desert campaign (August 2017)[edit]

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This is not a "campaign". Rebels regularly conduct raids against SAA forces here, not significant enough to warrant its own article about a "campaign".

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Syrian Desert Offensive[edit]

The one source there was stated the rebels announced an offensive, but no real offensive materialized after that. Instead, the SAA itself resumed its own military operations in the region (albeit on a small scale). Creating an article before a real offensive emerges is contrary to WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. If and when a rebel (or any other) offensive is put into motion we will create an article. And even then, we will first consider whether the offensive is notable enough to warrant its own article, per WP:NOTABILITY. EkoGraf (talk) 00:31, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

First, syria liveuamap is not considered a reliable source because its largely based on twitter posts and twitter is forbidden as a source by Wikipedia's policy. Second, the few advances that were reported by syria liveumap, beside not being verifiable (required by WP policy) were non-notable (WP policy requires notability). Third, the Iraqi militia positions that were allegedly attacked by US artillery during an IS assault were subsequently found to be on the Iraqi side of the border, not the Syrian side, in the Akashat area of Iraq. If you wish to expand on the current happenings regarding the SAA-FSA front near the Iraqi border in the desert, feel free to expand this section Syrian Desert campaign (May–July 2017)#Aftermath. EkoGraf (talk) 13:36, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Another Hama offensive article needed![edit]

I looked up and saw that you were the one who created latest articles regarding various offensives etc. So I believe this one totally deserves article of its own due to it being widely reported with intense clashes and dozens of casualties on both sides. Example sources you could use:

Source 1 Source 2 Source 3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlindNight (talkcontribs) 17:40, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

I disagree about this. There is no indication yet that the offensive will last. There are reports that it has already been repelled. A summary of the offensive should be placed in the aftermath section of the 2017 Hama offensive. Editor abcdef (talk) 04:04, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes, the offensive in Hama was discarded. In my opinion, East Syria is a priority, but North Hame will consider if the fierce offensive Tahrir Al-sham continues today. If I open an article and the offensive stagnates, it will easily be removed.--Baba Mica (talk) 09:30, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Eastern Syria campaign (2017)[edit]

Through talk page discussions a consensus has been made the Central Syria campaign (2017) ended with the SAA recapture of al-Qaryatayn. Plans are currently being made between me and some other editors to create a Eastern Syria campaign (2017) article that would include Battle of Deir ez-Zor (September 2017–present), 2017 Euphrates Crossing offensive, Deir ez-Zor offensive (September 2017–present), 2017 Mayadin offensive. Regards! EkoGraf (talk) 11:36, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

At the time when you proposed it, the operations had still not evolved into a full campaign. Only now is it evident that its a campaign. The Euphrates Crossing offensive is regarded as a sub-article (sub-operation) of the current Battle of Deir ez-Zor city article. Currently, there is no fighting/operations against ISIS in the desert between Suknah and the Euphrates. There is fighting at the T2 station in the southeast of Syria with the aim of reaching the Bukamal border crossing (which is the goal of this Eastern Syria campaign). As for the pocket you are referring to, you are most likely talking about the alleged pocket shown on syria.liveumap.com. That pocket has already been confirmed as cleared 10 days ago and all of the other maps on Syria (except liveumap) are now showing that part of Syria as SAA-held. Per WP policy, multiple sources trump one source in verifiability. At the moment, consensus exists via talk page discussions that the Central Syria campaign ended with the recapture of al-Qaryatayn. You would need to seek a new consensus for changing the date. PS I'll let you know when the campaign article gets created. Cheers! EkoGraf (talk) 10:21, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

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Well, it was deleted long ago. Baba Mica (talk) 13:08, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Someone made a better and more relevant template.Baba Mica (talk) 13:13, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

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I do not agree on this, and I want a wide discussion. This template should be completed and added to the Bosnian War and added as a pre-template. I know that the Muslim and Turkish lobby in the US justifies Aliа Izetbegovich, but the fact is that the Clinton administration is pointing out that April 6 is the first day of the war and that I can not do it. I insist on the discussion and that if the chief administrator does not allow me to put into the main template the true start of the war in Bosnia, which is March 1, then at least I insist that it be retained and added this template as a pre-form within the main template like before - patterns of the Syrian Civil War. I think that Wikipedia is rejecting my pre-form for political reasons or by refusing patrol administrations year after year who are in favor of the current political nomenclature in the United States related to the State Department, as well as the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, and want to cover up the period between March 1 and April 6 at all costs. I want a discussion and find some Modus Vivendi. With this pre-form, I wanted to be maximally NEUTRAL to everyone, but some admins do not give it and want to keep their distorted and frozen version of the beginning of this war PERMANENTLY PLASED. I am from the Balkans and while I'm alive I will not accept the BOSNIAN WAR template as it is today until some changes are corrected, and here I have presented them here.Baba Mica (talk) 13:57, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
'Not accepting' something on Wikipedia is hardly a reason to resort to becoming very agitated. It's only on online 'hobby' project - it's not formal history. However, the Reliable Sources it incorporates/interprets must be - historians/scholars determine when wars end and begin, regardless of whether one's personal opinion agrees with them. You should relax more and not get your eyebrows knitted together.50.111.1.254 (talk) 19:49, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

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