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Happy editing! VikingDrummer (talk) 19:56, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Abbeyblankensop. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Abbeyblankensop. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Abbeyblankensop|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Theroadislong (talk) 16:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Abbeyblankensop

A couple of comments about the process of getting your photos into the Beta Technologies article. First, you should straight away create your User Page and add a comment that you are a paid editor for the company. This is one of Wikipedia's terms and conditions and certain editors will get somewhat aggressive towards you if you don't mention the fact. See WP:PAID (and WP:COI) for instructions and ask me here for help if you run into any problems. The simplest way is to use the template {{paid|employer=Beta Technologies|article=Beta Technologies}}

Do you want me to do the crop, or is this just as easy for you? I'm not sure how familiar you are with photo-editing software.

The photos themselves need a bit more information on Wikimedia Commons to comply with something called OTRS. This is because they presumably belong to your company, not you personally and that needs to be explained given that your username (correctly) has no relationship with that of the company. One of the images says in its exif data that it was taken by someone called BEN COLBOURN of B3N PHOTO and it's that sort of inconsistency that can set alarm bells ringing for those concerned with copyright. Don't worry, however, I'll explain how to ensure the copyright folk are reassured. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:51, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've now taken a look at the Beta Technologies website and you definitely need to arrange for the OTRS procedure to be followed. File:AVA eVTOL.jpg has already been deleted from Wikipedia Commons (not anything to do with me!), no doubt because it was indeed taken by Ben Colbourn, who is mentioned on the website, where that photo may well be used: the one of the charging station is certainly there. The website gives no indication that its photos are licenced CC BY SA and the assumption is that they are copyright of Beta Technologies and can't be transferred to Commons. The process to sort this out is explained at Commons:OTRS. Basically, someone at Beta Technologies who has the authority to do so (typically, someone who is an official signatory for the company) must e-mail permissions-commons@wikimedia.org from a company e-mail address saying that they have given you (mentioning your real name and your Wikipedia Account name) permission to upload image files to Commons and to licence them as CC BY SA 4.0, with attribution to Beta Technologies (NOT your "own work" unless it was indeed you who took some in your spare time), as they own the copyright by virtue of them having been taken by employees as part of their employment. You should deliberately word the e-mail so that you can upload files in future but you should mention by file-name the ones you have already done. If you look at one of the files I uploaded on behalf of a photographer called Ed Gold, you can see how it all looks on Commons after the process is complete: File:Yuendumu_Gold_01.jpg. Note in particular in the "Summary" box that there is an OTRS "ticket" saying that trusted volunteers at Commons have checked the permission given (in this case by Ed Gold) for me to upload on his behalf.

Meanwhile, I have today tidied up the references in the Beta Technologies article and added a couple of recent developments, with citations to reliable sources. Overall, the article could do with a better source for information about Kyle Clark than the current reference 3, which is a WP:primary rather than WP:secondary one. Has anyone written about him in detail, preferably not based solely on an interview or social media? Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:49, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, now you have declared you are a paid user, we can get on with improving the article with pictures. If you have more to upload, then do so now following the OTRS procedure I've mentioned, if any of the images are not ones where you personally took the photograph. Then go to the Talk Page of the article, with is this link Talk:Beta Technologies and create a new section with any changes of text you think would improve it (quoting sources for the information: that's vital) and suggesting, if you like, which image files should go where. Then I'll read your suggestions and make the actual changes, or comment what else might be needed to make them. Don't edit the article directly, only edit the Talk Page and all should be well. You can also continue here on your own Talk Page if you need any more specific help from me. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:02, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice. Could I ask a favor? The caption of the charging station is incorrect. Could you change it to say “BETA Technologies charging pad for aircraft”, to match the more common charging station? Abbeyblankensop (talk) 10:47, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. I also linked to the charging station article in the main text. I'm happy to consider further suggestions for the article but please make them in its Talk Page, so other editors can more easily follow. They are unlikely to be watching here. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:50, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]