Template talk:The Beatles singles

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Why don't we put the B-sides on the bottom of this template. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sdoroudi (talk • contribs) .

• They originally were, I separated them because it was getting pretty big. It's smaller now though, and a few others have said the same thing, so I think I will remerge them. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 02:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Sdoroudi 02:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• With the American singles here too, adding b-sides makes the template way too big. - 86.147.172.188 (talk) 15:38, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See discussion below. John Cardinal (talk) 15:41, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The recent revisions to this template have made it unnecessarily large. The information it now contains is mostly redundant. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 02:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know what you're talking about. I have a couple of ideas. We could reorganize the template into three sections: UK only, US only, and UK and US. Or, we could split the template into two separate templates: UK Beatles singles and US Beatles singles. Democraticmacguitarist (talk) 15:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are responding to a comment that's more than 2 years old. Please seek concensus before any substantive change. We've been back and forth on this already. — John Cardinal (talk) 15:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added Apple Records, because from 1968 The Beatles released records at this label (in UK and US). Karolek15 08:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Due to the overwhelming size of the template, perhaps we should split the singles and the B-sides? One template could be the singles (UK on top; US on bottom), and repeat the structure for the B-sides. I don't think we should split them by UK v. US because you'll just end up with two moderate sized templates on an article as opposed to one big one. Of course I'm not a member of the Beatles project, and only saw this was a semi-size issue; if I'm shouted down or outnumbered I don't mind. Anthony Hit me up... 23:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why are there in some places commas separating songs, but in other places slashes? Reywas92^Talk 22:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A slash separates songs on the same side of a single, a comma indicates the next single in the same year. John Cardinal 01:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm wondering what separates, conceptually, the so-called "B sides" from the second songs on the "double A sides"? (Forgive me, I'm from the mainly post-45s era.) Are double-A sides marked as such on the release, or are they just called double A-sides because the B side was a successful and well-known song? I.e. what is special about We Can Work it Out, Yellow Submarine, Penny Lane, Don't Let Me Down, and Come Together that makes them too good for the B-sides list? Spebudmak 23:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the tables should be fair small and readable.I had encountered the problem in FF . what about the other browsers? Bbadree (talk) 15:48, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A user has deleted the B sides with no edit summary comment or discussion here. IMO, the B sides should remain, and so I undid the change. This template is the easiest way to find many of the songs that were only issued as B sides, and the template is not made appreciably longer by having them. John Cardinal (talk) 14:04, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this - and see that it happened again. I'm reverting to include the B sides. Tvoz/talk 06:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The IP editor has chimed in above that he thinks the template is too big. Given that the template is collapsible, that doesn't seem important. In any case, there's no concensus for a deletion of the material. John Cardinal (talk) 15:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can undertand why the 70s / 80s UK singles ("Yesterday", "Back in the USSR", "Sgt Pepper...", "Movie Medley" etc) are not there but it is pretty inconsistent to have the US equivalents there. Also why list the 1986 reissue of "Twist and Shout" and not, say the 1982 reissue of "Love Me Do".

I think the best way to cut down the size of the box would be to have the list of official UK singles (as they are), then a list of the extra US-only singles (without record company reissues in the 70s/80s) although with different b-sides etc this could be tricky!Retro junkie (talk) 23:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I edited the template so that singles released identically both in UK and the US are in a separate section. This shortens the template and reduces the number of redundant links. If anyone doesn't like this, shout now. Democraticmacguitarist (talk) 15:10, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also added columns to make the template even smaller. Anyone opposed? Democraticmacguitarist (talk) 15:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As you might have seen I do. It became way to messy. We should prioritize the tidyness, and only deal with length if we can maintain it. CentraCross (talk) 07:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The template should include, under "US only", the ten Capitol/CEMA US singles first issued in the 1990s, officially designated 'for jukeboxes only', not that that meant much. The ten are:
1994:
Birthday/Taxman
Here Comes the Sun/Octopus's Garden
1996:
You've Got to Hide Your Love Away/I've Just Seen a Face
Norwegian Wood/If I Needed Someone
Here There and Everywhere/Good Day Sunshine
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds/When I'm Sixty-Four
Magical Mystery Tour/The Fool on the Hill
While My Guitar Gently Weeps/Blackbird
It's All Too Much/Only a Northern Song
Across the Universe/Two of Us
67.186.19.151 (talk) 08:49, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Norwegian Wood article says the single was released in Australia in 1966. Include in template? -- HLachman (talk) 15:51, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not entirely clear on the organization in this template, but I've added it. Apparently Parlophone released "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" backed with "Nowhere Man" in Australia. [1] —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 15:07, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why doesn't this list start with Love me do, their first single, in 1962? Hogyn Lleol (talk) 20:38, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see it's under 'UK only'. Hogyn Lleol (talk) 18:50, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]