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How does Christian theosophy differ from theosophy? --Wesley

Primarily by stressing the divinty of Christ, and by making repeated reference to the Bible. Did I not mention that sufficiently in this article? :( F. Lee Horn

This article doesn't seem to mention the Bible at all; I suppose it implies the divinity of "the Christ". Do they also believe in the humanity of Christ, or that he was a divine apparition? The reason for my initial question is that according to the theosophy article, theosophy encompasses the truths common to all religions, which made me wonder how much of Christianity would be accepted by "plain" theosophy as opposed to "Christian" theosophy. --Wesley

Admittedly, it's a fine distinction. Since I'm still working on the Theosophy article, my answer to this will have to be a SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess): from what I know at this point, since Theosophy holds that all religions are attempts by mankind to connect with "the Divine," Christian Theosophy would simply be Theosophy with a Christian distinctive..i.e. that a "Christian Theosophist" would continue to believe the basic tenets of Christianity, but would also hold that Christianity was but one path to follow to "the Divine." Apparently a Christian Theosophist (sounds almost like an oxomoron, doesn't it?) would be compelled to forgo any belief in Jesus Christ as "the only begotton Son of God." Like I say, this is just a SWAG at this point. F. Lee Horn

Looking at this again, "Christian Theosophist" does sound like an oxymoron, since belief in Jesus as the only Son of God is almost universal among the various historic Christian groups. Have any "Christian theosophists" been spotted in the wild? Any resources concerning Christian theosophy? web sites? books?

As a theosophist I have to agree: the term Christian Theosophist is new to me. I mean, there are people who are Christian and Theosophist. The two don't bite, but other than that I don't think the term exists, let alone needs to be listed. Why not a Buddhist Theosophist also, and a Muslim Theosophist. One can create any term one wishes, and figure out what it would mean. But it only needs to be listed in an encyclopedia if the term starts to mean something specific to a certain group of people.

kh7 11:30 Mar 23, 2003 (UTC)

can this just be deleted??? kh7 19:22 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Since we appear to have consensus, I'm going to redirect this page to Theosophy rather than delete it, so as to avoid breaking links and losing this discussion history. Wesley 16:32, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

As an editor wrote in the "Esoteric Christianity" article, Christian teosophy predates the Theosophical Society and Martinism. Classic Christian theosophists include Valentin Weigel, Heinrich Kunrath, Johann Arndt, Johann Georg Gitchel, Jakob Boehme, Gottfried Arnold, Jan Baptist van Helmont, Robert Fludd, John Pordage, Jane Leade, and Pierre Poiret. On one hand, earlier Rosicrucian alchemists are also denominated as Christian teosophists (e.g. Jan Baptist van Helmont, Robert Fludd); On the other hand, the 19th century Theosophy is, in its origin, an Eastern philosophy which does not include a conception related to the Christ (although later, with teosophists as Annie Besant in her book "Esoteric Christianity and the Lesser Mysteries", it made an inclination toward a conception of Christ, as an attempt to integrate in teosophic conceptions. It was a quite polemic conception, erroneous in the central aspects according to the western esoteric tradition, which together with the issue of Jiddu Krishnamurti led Rudolf Steiner to leave the Theosophical Society. Steiner latter on wrote "Exoteric and Esoteric Christianity" also as an answer to her book from a western point of view to her book). This is a very brief analysis of an issue that has been already studied indepth during the last century. So, I'm re-directing to the more appropriate article Esoteric Christianity. --62.169.95.200 04:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a closed move discussion on Talk:Christian theosophy which affected this page. P. I. Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there 00:39, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]