Talk:Narcissism

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In one section, it is stated that people high in narcissism have high self-esteem, have positive self-perception and are relatively worry- and gloom-free. In another section, it states that people high in narcissism have fragile self-esteem, are easily threatened, and are more likely to interpret the behavior of others as abusive and threatening.

Clarification or further explanation is necessary. Relying on individuals high in narcissism to self-report can be extemely problematic and likely accounts for many contradictions regarding this topic. Acknowledgement of this would a helpful addition to the article. Studies now suggest there is a pervasive lack of self esteem in these personalities, as well as a very negative self-perception that many of them intentionally work to conceal.

Most of us learned about Narcissism from Sam Vaknin books or videos, so it could be useful to distinguish between Classical Narcissism & Sam Vaknin Narcissism.

The contradictions in the aricle is because of this divide, between an indoctrinated educated class that studied classical Narcissism in universities and modern people who learned about Narcissism from Sam Vaknin. Loborron (talk) 03:09, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard of Vaknin.

Would you mind explaining what Vaknin's take on narcissism is, so that we can tease out those contradictions?

MrDemeanour (talk) 11:56, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Malignant Self Love: Narcissism Revisited Romoglo (talk) 18:26, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Please change his to their in "used to discribe when a person treats his own body in the way..." RebornSociety (talk) 03:17, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done

It’s a bit weird that narcissism isn’t thought of as a symptom of personality disorders but instead, as a way of being obnoxious 71.178.33.122 (talk) 12:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The word "echoism" doesn't appear on the Narcissism article even though the Echoism (psychology) article redirects there. Not sure where I could place a new section about echoism, but I also do not know what specific sources would be suitable for backing up the concept of echoism as a reliably sourced entry. There's some sources out there about "echoism", but some of the websites are on the Wikipedia blacklist, implying that these links are problematic and thus are unreliable sources. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 08:20, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]