Talk:Kalina people

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Comment[edit]

This page has more to do with the language than it does with the ethnic group. This should probably be changed (or possibly split into 2 stubs instead of 1).

Move and Redirect[edit]

I copied everything above from Talk:Kaliña, moved the contents of Kaliña over to Kali'na people and redirected the original page to the new page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metrowestjp (talkcontribs) 11:44, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also redirected the French Wikipedia article fr:Kali'na, which was pointed to Galibi, an article on the verge of deletion that should be redirected here. Galibi is an older name for the Kali'na. Metrowestjp (talk) 11:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copied Talk:Galibi tag here and redirected Galibi to Kali'na people. Also removed circular reference in article. Metrowestjp (talk) 12:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May 2014[edit]

I've repaired the above copy and paste move from Kaliña to restore the edit history. I've also moved the article to Kalina people; according to Courtz's A Carib Grammar and Dictionary, there are multiple spellings of the name, several of which appear in English language sources. Simply "Kalina" appears to be the most common; if I'm wrong I'm happy to discuss it.--Cúchullain t/c 21:21, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Guanipa[edit]

It seems "Guanipa" was a major cacique of the Karina people in Venezuela. His name is used for such things as the Guanipa River, the large region called "La Mesa de Guanipa", and the town San Jose de Guanipa. I wouldn't know how to find a citation for these apparent facts, but I thought it worth noting here for potential further development of this article. Bdushaw (talk) 19:41, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Want to add content, but need 2O from French Language user[edit]

Ritual, performance, politics: a kali'na mourning by Gerard Collomb has some interesting information that would do well to flesh out the Culture section. Since I'm relying on Gtranslate, I'd like a second look to make sure I'm not asserting something in error. Below are what I would like to add to the article based on the above citation:

Kasiri, a cassava-derived beer, is an important part of traditional Kalina celebrations.

The death of family members initiates a period of mourning that can last for a year or more, and is concluded with a celebration known as Epekotono. Preparations are made by a respected member of the village, and can take several months to assemble. Collecting money is a more contemporary addition to the responsibilities. Epekotono is a public event that draws attendance from neighboring villages, including body-painting, music, dancing, and symbolic burning of the deceased's belongings to mark their spirit leaving. At the conclusion, mourning ends and normal social behaviors resume, along with the option for widows to remarry. While non-Kalina can attend as guests, the event serves to reinforce the Kalina identity, marked by explicit use of the [Kalina language].[1]

Cheers, Estheim (talk) 10:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Estheim: My French is limited to high school (I can read it, but writing is something entirely different). Two points: 1) The document is about the Kalina's in French Guiana and Suriname. Guyana and the Brazilian group are part of the same "nation", however the majority live in Venezuela and have been isolated from the "Guianas" group for centuries and may have their own rites, so I would add in the Guianas. 2) I would add this line: "seule véritable occasion aujourd’hui de tels rassemblements dans la société kali’na." "nowadays, it is the only occasion for such gatherings" KittenKlub (talk) 13:30, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
KittenKlub, thanks. I've added it to main-space with your suggestions. Feel free to adjust it. I appreciate the help: I don't usually go looking for non-English sources, but this one had the abstract in English and I was weak to the siren call of possible encyclopedic content. Cheers, Estheim (talk) 09:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Collomb, Gérard (2007). "Rituel, performance, politique : un deuil kali'na". Ethnologie française. 37: 89–94. doi:10.3917/ethn.070.0089.