Talk:Beatific vision

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Wrong Order[edit]

As usual articles of a religious nature are placing Christianity first when they should be in chronological order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.137.36.230 (talk) 09:18, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

art[edit]

is there any art out there, like the medieval paintings with angels and such, that show at least the attempt to represent this vision?

King Arthur as represented in Monty Python's Holy Grail had a beatific vision, as he was given the quest to seek the Holy Grail. 64.231.58.195 (talk) 02:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hebrew[edit]

Some connection surely should be made between this and the Hebrew ein sof or Tifereth in the Tree of Life whenceforth the emanations of life eminate. Average64 (talk) 22:04, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Poor references from scripture =[edit]

The quotation running “ God "dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has even seen or can see" (1 Timothy 6:16), but when God reveals Himself to us in heaven we will then see Him face to face (1 Corinthians 13:12; Matthew 5:8; Psalm 17:15).[4] is decidedly poor. Not one of the latter three references (1 Corinthians 13:12; Matthew 5:8; Psalm 17:15) specify, suggest or imply 'in heaven'. 60.48.220.217 (talk) 11:36, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the Quote from the Qur'an mentioned is translated poorly, it is "On the Day of Judgment some faces will be bright, and look forward to receiving mercy from their Lord" rather than looking at the face of their Lord. So it doesn't really have any beatific vision in the Qur'an. Its further emphasized as an impossibility when Moses witnesses the destruction of a mountain when God reveals his power to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.46.64 (talk) 18:21, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satori --37.201.7.253 (talk) 14:15, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly, but the Christian tradition strangely thinks the idea belongs to them and them alone, not realizing that the Beatific vision is a component of all traditions and goes well beyond religion itself, and can be found in art and science, but described in secular terms. The "face of god" is not supposed to be a literal thing; Hawking himself famously described it as the realization of the laws of physics; while still others think of it as a kind of wave-like, thread-like connection between everything and everybody, instantly accessible at every moment if you only knew how to look. "Religion" is the overlay added to this, to give people an incentive or goal or task to accomplish. My point is that this article should not be written from a purely Christian POV; every culture in the world has their own experience of the "Beatific vision". It's clearly a universal attribute of human transcendence and should be broadened as such. I know, I know, "good luck with that". Viriditas (talk) 20:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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