Talk:Báb

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Instigation of violence and evidence of mental illness[edit]

This article is white-washed to an extreme level. No mention is made of the Bab's violent and intolerant teachings, nor its contribution to a period of anarchy resulting in over 20,000 deaths. Evidence of mental illness should also be discussed with respect to his aberrant behaviour, including hypergraphia, self-identification as God, the drawing of pentagrams, and refusal to take action to halt the bloodshed brought on by his teachings. Drcombo (talk) 01:10, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is nonsense. You are pushing Iranian government propaganda. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 05:53, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge[edit]

I'm curious what you think. If you look at Báb, Bábism, Subh-i-Azal, Azali, and Baháʼí–Bábí split (needs a name change). They all need some serious work. But in particular, I don't think we need a page for Bábism. It is mostly repeated on other pages. The biography of the Báb covers the history of his life (with subpages for teachings, execution, and it could include one on his writings). The main value of the page on Bábism is the upheavals, which don't fit nicely on the Bab's biography. There is really a lot of repetition among all those pages. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 05:52, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Or maybe merge Baháʼí–Bábí split into Bábism? Cuñado ☼ - Talk 01:08, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... without having looked at all the details, in principle I think all five pages are on notable topics. That said, I agree that at the moment, there is a lot of overlap. Looking at Baháʼí–Bábí split, a lot of what's in there is out-of-scope, but there is a fair amount that's on topic and would probably be WP:UNDUE at Báb or Bábism. Perhaps it could be trimmed down and then moved to Baháʼí–Azali split? Azali could potentially be merged into Bábism, or else moved to Azali Bábism? Gazelle55 Let's talk! 17:04, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Execution[edit]

Here is the source used in the lead, Hartz p. 35:

Eyewitness accounts record the remarkable events surrounding the execution of the Bab. The army jailers suspended the Bab and one of his young followers by ropes from the top of a wall. A firing squad of 750 Armenian Christian soldiers lined up facing them. The order to fire was given. The rifles made a deafening roar and black smoke filled the entire area. When the smoke cleared the Bab's companion stood by the wall, unhurt. The Bab had disappeared.
Searchers found him in his room calmly dictating to his secretary. The original firing squad was so shaken by what had happened that they refused to continue. Many believed that they had attempted to kill a holy man and now feared the wrath of God. Officials quickly brought together a squad of Muslim marksmen to carry out the execution. This time the soldiers did not miss and the Bab was killed.
The story of the Bab's death spread throughout Persia like the wind. It had a profound impact not only on the Persian people but also on the many Europeans who lived in Persia at the time. It aroused new interest in his message...

This is a bit dramatic but pretty typical of how it is described. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 16:23, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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