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Please see Antisemitism § Etymology for the history of the use of "anti-Semitism" and "antisemitism" to exclusively mean anti-Jewish sentiment.
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Remove unsubstantiated "assertion" from non-expert[edit]
James Carroll asserted: "Jews accounted for 10% of the total population of the Roman Empire. By that ratio, if other factors such as pogroms and conversions had not intervened, there would be 200 million Jews in the world today, instead of something like 13 million."
This seems wildly off base considering that many if not most ethnic groups that existed during the Roman Empire are now extinct whether or not they were subjected to those factors. This includes the Romans themselves as a distinct ethnic group. That they continued to exist under pressure should be testament to their survival, not a revanchist dogwhistle from a source that has little to no authority on the subject matter. 2601:19C:5101:4750:7816:2040:1C9E:6A6A (talk) 13:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On the Wiki page about Islamophobia, Islamophobia is described as 'the irrational and unjustified fear of, hatred of, or prejudice against the religion of Islam or Muslims in general, especially when seen as a geopolitical force or a source of terrorism.'
In the intro on the Wiki about antisemitism on the other hand, the words 'irrational and unjustified' are not included.
When looked at in context one could understand this as if to say that 1) there is no such thing as rational and justified Islamophobia and/or 2) antisemitism can be rational and justified.
I think this discrepancy has to be resolved. The easiest road to travel would be to add the words 'irrational and unjustified' to the intro on the wiki page about antisemitism (think of the uproar when you would suggest leaving these words out of the intro on Islamophobia..). I have no experience in editing Wiki articles though.
What are other peoples views on this? And could someone help editing the page? Dadavalobe (talk) 20:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wise to highlight this juxtaposition given how closely linked islamophobia and anti-semitism are. 70.51.63.96 (talk) 17:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The section on contemporary antisemitism, in the lede and the main body, does not appear to describe the parallel phenomenon of weaponization of antisemitism. Is there a reason for this? Without mention of this parallel phenomenon the article's description of contemporary antisemitism is unbalanced. Onceinawhile (talk) 18:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Antisemitism is historically defined as a racist opposition to a group of people formerly defined as “semites”. These people hail from the land of historical Palestine and include both Jews and Arabs. The explicit exclusion of arabs in the article displays flagrant racism. The definition reflects the ideals of the Zionist regime which aim to portray Palestinian Arabs as anti-semites who refuse to relinquish the land that Zionists believe is “rightfully jewish”, when in reality Palestinian Arabs are currently and historically a severely oppressed group under military occupation from the IOF. Excluding Arabs to represent the MODERN ETYMOLOGY of the term “antisemitism” is blatantly inaccurate and genuinely antisemitic. To ONLY include anti-arab racism —which is antisemitic— in the Antisemitism & Etymology article is counter productive and perpetuates a dangerous Zionist ideal. If anything the MODERN ETYMOLOGY of the word to solely refer to anti-jewish racism should be included in the Antisemitism & Etymology article while the genuine definition of antisemitism, meaning the explicit racism towards jews and arabs or historical “semites”, should prevail in the Antisemitism article. Wikipedia should be educated enough to know the propaganda they are creating and highlighting and the danger of said propaganda. 70.51.63.96 (talk) 17:02, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As the article notes, there is no such thing as a Semitic race, and the term antisemitism was coined and has only ever been used to describe anti-Jewish racism. It is legitimate to argue that the tern is a misnomer - but that is the task of lexicographers, historians and activists, not of Wikipedia editors. RolandR (talk) 17:20, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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